Establishing the parents of Thomas Crump

Working backwards

Photographer Sandra Williamson, Gravestone Thomas Crump & Selina Crump nee Wheeler, Boroondara Cemetery, Kew, Victoria, Australia, Sandra Williamson’s private Collection, 11 July 2003[B023]

Thomas Crump died on the 13 April 1874 in Hawthorn, Victoria, Australia.  On his death certificate it stated that he was born in “Kent, England” and had been living for “32 years in Victoria”[i].

Based on the time he lived in Victoria he would have arrived around 1841/2.  His death certificate also stated that he had been married twice although the name of his first wife was not listed, as particulars were unknown at the time.

Shipping Records

The only Thomas Crump arriving in Australia in 1841/2 travelled on the Marquis of Hasting arriving in Sydney on 4 February 1841, accompanied by his wife Rebecca Crump.  On Rebecca’s record, it stated that she was formerly known as Underhill presumably her maiden name as her father’s surname is also given as an Underhill.[ii].[iii].

A Closer look at Thomas’s Entitlement Certificate

Below is a transcription of the certificate

“Thomas Crump

Married Male Immigrant

Arrived by the Ship Marquis of Hastings

Bought out by C.F  Warne

A native of – Parish of Goudhurst – Kent.  Parents living at East Fairly, Coxheath near Maidstone – Fathers Name Wm Startup Mothers name Elizabeth

Calling – Agriculture Labourer

Age on embarkation – Twenty seven on 25 Nov 1840

Person certifying Registry of Baptism – None

Character, and Person certifying the same S W Nursington(?) & others

State of bodily health, strength, and probably usefulness very good

Religion Wesleyan Methodist

Read and Write – Both

Remarks – no Complaints”

The Entitlement certificate reveals that Thomas considered his parents to be William and Elizabeth Startup. Records show that his mother Elizabeth married William Startup by banns on 10 February 1816 in Tudeley with Capel, Kent, England.[iv]

Thomas left England before the 1841 census however his mother, stepfather and the family were still living in East Fairly, Coxheath near Maidstone, Kent, England that year.[v][vi]

1.  William Startup, age 48, Ag Lab [step father]
2.  Elizabeth Startup, age 51 [mother]
3. William Startup 20, Ag Lab 
4.  John Startup 17, Ag Lab 
5. James Startup 12, Ag Lab 
6. Helenor Startup 10 

Living next door to

1. Robert Startup, aged 24, Ag Lab [eldest son of William & Elizabeth, stepbrother of Thomas]
2.  Elizabeth Startup, aged 27 [wife of the eldest son of William & Elizabeth] 
3. Roseanna Startup, aged 1
4. Robert Waterman, aged 70, gardener
5. Mary Waterman, aged 55

The time & Place of Thomas’ Baptism

The pivotal evidence for the parentage of Thomas Crump is the immigration records of 1841, where his  parents are identified William Startup and Elizabeth, living in East Fairly, Coxheath near Maidstone, Kent where they are still living later in that same year at the time of the census.[vii] Elizabeth did not marry William Startup until 10 February 1816, three years after Thomas was born.[viii]  In the same immigration records his age is recorded as “Twenty seven on 25 Nov 1840” which results in a calculated birthdate of 25 Nov 1813 a two-day variance from the date recorded as in his baptism records.

Conclusion

Thomas CRUMP was born on 22^nd November 1813 and baptised a month later on 2^nd January 1814 Church of England, Goudhurst, Kent, the illegitimate son of Elizabeth Crump late a servant of Mr W. Mynn, the father was listed as William Mynn Jnr, farmer. [ix]  

His mother, Elizabeth, went on to marry William Startup on 10 February 1816, who became Thomas’s stepfather.

[Post updated 26 July 2019]

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[i] Victorian death certificate 4922 (1874), Thomas Crump, 13 April 1874, district of Boondara, entry 1168; Registry of Births Deaths and Marriages Victoria, Melbourne. 

[ii] Ancestry.com, "New South Wales, Australia, Assisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1828-1896," database and images, Ancestry.com (www.Ancestry.com : accessed 15 Jul 2019); Passenger record for Rebecca Crump,  4 February 1841, 'Marquis of Hastings' p.163, entry line 6; Citing State Records Authority of New South Wales; Kingswood New South Wales, Australia; Entitlement certificates of persons on bounty ships; Series: 5314;Reel: 1333; Ancestry.com. New South Wales, Australia, Assisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1828-1896 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2007; Entitlement certificate for Rebecca Crump, who arrived on 4 February 1841 on the vessel Marquis of Hastings in New South Wales Australia from Goudhurst, Kent, Citing State Records Authority of New South Wales; Kingswood New South Wales, Australia; Entitlement certificates of persons on bounty ships; Series: 5314;Reel: 1333

[iii] Ancestry.com, "New South Wales, Australia, Assisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1828-1896," database and images, Ancestry.com (www.Ancestry.com : accessed 15 Jul 2019); Passenger record for Thomas Crump,  4 February 1841, 'Marquis of Hastings' p.163, entry line 5; Citing State Records Authority of New South Wales; Kingswood New South Wales, Australia; Entitlement certificates of persons on bounty ships; Series: 5314;Reel: 1333; Ancestry.com. New South Wales, Australia, Assisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1828-1896 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2007; Entitlement certificate for Thomas Crump, who arrived on 4 February 1841 on the vessel Marquis of Hastings in New South Wales Australia from Goudhurst, Kent, Citing State Records Authority of New South Wales; Kingswood New South Wales, Australia; Entitlement certificates of persons on bounty ships; Series: 5314;Reel: 1333

[iv] “Kent Marriages and Banns”, database with images, Findmypast, Marriage of William Startup of this parish, bachelor & Elizabeth Crump of this parish, spinster were married by banns on 10 February 1816 Tudeley with Capel parish register, Marriage banns 1754-1825, page 8,entry 23; Kent Archives Office, Maidstone, County Hall, Maidstone, Kent, England, P374/1/D/2

[v] 1841 English Census HO107/457/45/ 13 The household of William & Elizabeth Startup in Coxheath Street, East Farleigh, Kent, England.

[vi] 1841 English Census HO107/457/45/ 13 The household of Robert & Elizabeth Startup in Coxheath Street, East Farleigh, Kent, England.

[vii] 1841 English Census HO107/457/45/ 13 The household of William & Elizabeth Startup in Coxheath Street, East Farleigh, Kent, England.

[viii] “Kent Marriages and Banns”, database with images, Findmypast, Marriage of William Startup of this parish, bachelor & Elizabeth Crump of this parish, spinster were married by banns on 10 February 1816 Tudeley with Capel parish register, Marriage banns 1754-1825, page 8,entry 23; Kent Archives Office, Maidstone, County Hall, Maidstone, Kent, England, P374/1/D/2

[ix] Baptism of Thomas born 22 November 1813 & baptized 2 January 1814 (illegitimate of) Elizabeth Crump, late a servant of W. Mynn’s and William Mynn, Jnr, a farmer, Goudhurst Kent parish register Baptisms 1813-1830, entry 87; Kent Archives Office, Maidstone, County Hall, Maidstone, Kent, England.

A to Z Challenge - D is for Daughter

Snippets from the life of Martha Sarah Ellis.

Martha Sarah Ellis was the daughter of Alfred Ellis & Martha Bartlett, who were married on the 27^th Apr 1864 in St James Church, Shoreditch, Middlesex, England.[1]  Martha's parents were working class people.  Her mother's family were originally farm labourers from Kent and her father's family were boot makers.

Her own father was a skilled boot maker who set up his own shop, and although not middle class could be described as "occupying the borderline territory between working and middle classes."[2]

Alfred Ellis – Martha’s father's Line

Alfred’s occupation was listed as watchmaker on his marriage certificate.[3] However by 1865 when his first child Alfred (Jnr), is born her father’s occupation has gone from watch maker to Bootmaker (Master).[4] None of the children after Alfred born 1865, including Martha, were christened until 1881.

Martha Bartlett – Martha’s mother's Line

Mothers died young in Martha Sarah’s maternal line. Her mother (Martha Bartlett) died in 1880 when Martha Sarah was only 10 years old.  The same thing had happened with her mother’s mother, Martha Frances Moon who was born in Kent into a farm-labouring family in 1840 and died at the relative young age of 40 leaving her daughter (Martha’s mother) motherless at the age of 15. [5]  Martha Sarah’s Great-Grandmother Hannah Cutbush also died young at the age of 25, her daughter motherless at the age of 4.[6]  Four generations of girls’ losing their mothers at a young age, what happened to those girls who died before Martha Sarah’s generation is not really known however back then they may have gone into service at a young age.  After Martha Sarah’s own mother died she continued her education, which was compulsory in the 1880s until at least 12 years of age.

Each of Martha’s siblings were registered with the surname Ellis shortly after birth, in the public sphere, however, the family surname was given as Lee.  To learn more details see my post C is for Census.  Her father only went back to his real surname once he married his second wife to Mary Elizabeth Southgate[7]  Martha’s father married three years after her mother died.  The couple went on to have three more children. [8]

To Read more about Martha's life for articles previously posted for the A to Z Challenges click the Letters below:-

A  B  C  D  E  F  G  H  I  J  K  L  M  N  O  P  Q  R  S  T  U  V  W  X  Y  Z

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[1] England, marriage certificate for Alfred Ellis and Bartlett Martha, married 27 April 1864; citing 1c/256/459, June quarter 1864, Shoreditch registration district, Parish of  St James sub-district; General Register Office, Southport. 

[2] Mitchell, Sally. 2008. Daily Life in Victorian England, Second Edition. ABC-CLIO. P.19

[3] General Register Office, England, "Marriage certificate Alfred Ellis & Martha Bartlett" (Reference Details.  Marriages Jun 1864, District Shoreditch, 

[4] General Register Office, England, Birth Certificate Alfred Ellis, Reference Births Dec 1865, District Camberwell, Vol 1d, Page 584 (Original a certified copy).

[5] England, birth certificate for Martha Bartlett, born 13 March 1840; citing 5/379/81, June quarter 1840, Sevenoaks registration district, Penshurst in the County of  Kent sub-district; General Register Office, Southport; England and Wales, death certificate for Jesse Moon, died 13 April 1841; citing 5/313/479, June quarter 1841, Tenderden Union registration district, Tenderden county of Kent sub-district; General Register Office, Southport.

[6] buried in Tenterden Churchyard

[7] General Register Office, England, "Marriage Certificate Alfred Ellis & Mary Elizabeth Southgate Reference Marriages Dec 1883, District Camberwell, Vol 1d, page 1263"

[8] Church Register for the Parish of St Luke, Camberwell in the County of Surrey England 1881, Year 1884, Page ?, Entry 112.; England, birth certificate for Millie Elizabeth Ellis, born 24 October 1885; citing 1d/ 977 /49, December quarter 1885, Camberwell registration district, St George Camberwell in the County of Surrey sub-district; General Register Office, Southport.; England, birth certificate for Hugh Alfred Ellis, born 8 July 1887; citing 1d/[1_]83/466, September quarter 1887, Camberwell registration district, Peckham in the County of Surrey sub-district; General Register Office, Southport